On this episode, we’re talking with Fr. Paul Robinson, the Prior of Saint Isidores in Denver, Colorado, about the practical matters that Catholics should know about the Novus Ordo Mass. Over the last two episodes, we’ve looked at the inherent problems in this new formulation of the New Mass. Today, we’ll see what that means for us as Catholics. Do these problems mean that the New Mass is invalid? Or should we even be attending the New Mass, if we have the choice?
We’ll continue our discussion of the Novus Ordo Mass today with Fr. Paul-Isaac Franks, professor of Theology at Saint Marys College. Last time, we looked at the New Mass’s Ecumenical intent. Today, we’ll see how the New Mass is a direct expression of the New Theology that was condemned by Pope Pius XII. But this problematic theology came back in full force during the second Vatican council, and when the New Mass was developed, it drew on this new theology, putting aside much of the traditional theology contained in the Church’s Magisterium.
We’re starting our 4-episode look at the Novus Ordo Mass, which was introduced in 1969. We’ll be covering a different aspect during each of these episodes, today, looking at the New Mass, and how it was developed as an Ecumenical Rite. We know from previous episodes that the Church had pivoted in its relationship to other religions. But the New Mass is a striking example of this Ecumenist spirit – and Fr. Reuter will explain to us how nearly every change that was made was done to appease Non-Catholics.
With this episode, we’re starting our study of the period after the Second Vatican Council. Over the next twenty or so episodes, we’ll be diving into topics like the Novus Ordo Mass, Religious Liberty, Collegiality, the Hermeneutic of Continuity, Feenyism, Obedience and its Limits, Sedevacantism, Ecumenism, Infallibility, the new Canonizations, Supplied Jurisdiction, and much more. But today, we’ll start with the reforms that started to take place just after the Second Vatican Council. Father John-Mark McFarland will take us through the immediate aftermath of the council, and show us how the Council, and the “Spirit of Vatican II” meant an immediate overhaul, and deformation of everything in the Church.
We’re going to wrap up our discussion on the course of the Second Vatican Council today with Fr. MacGillivray by looking at the fourth and final Session of the Council, which took place in 1965. To do this, we’ll hone in 4 of the most important of constitutions that were passed, dealing with Religious Liberty, Divine Revelation, Ecumenism, and more. These documents mark a definitive shift in how the Catholic Church considered these important issues – and makes 1965 perhaps the most momentous year in the recent history of the Catholic Church. If you’ve seen last episode, you’ll be well equipped to identify the ambiguity and the “time bombs” in these documents that would shape the way the Catholic Church looks today.
Today, we’ll continue our look at the Second Vatican Council, this time looking at the 2nd and 3rd Sessions, in 1963 and 1964. We’ll see how the liberal Rhine Group continued their full-on assault of the preparations for the Council, and how they gained an ally in the newly-elected Pope Paul VI, who cleared the way for even more of their work to go on, unhindered. We’ll also take a moment to discover the problem with the Second Vatican Council documents – at first glance, many of them seem quite orthodox. But these documents were both blatantly ambiguous, and also hiding what would become known as Neo-Modernist Time Bombs. We’ll see what that all means, and what effect this will have on the Holy Catholic Church
Today, we’re diving into the Second Vatican Council itself with Father William MacGillivray. This is the first of three episodes on the Council. After having reviewed the preparation for the Council in the last two episodes, today we’ll see what happened during the first two sessions, or the first two years of the Council. We’ll see how the Neo-Modernists came to the council absolutely prepared – and in effect caused the first session to end with nothing accomplished, and how a group of Council Fathers – the Rhine Group – would go back home after the first session and prepare to reshape the course of the rest of the Council.
In this episode, we’re happy to welcome back Fr. Jonathan Loop, the Principal of ICA in Post Falls, ID, to discuss the second part of the preparations for the Second Vatican Council. Last time, we saw the good preparations that were done, and caused many, including Archbishop Lefebvre, to be very optimistic about the Council. Today, we’ll see the behind the scenes work that was carried out by the liberal Council Fathers, before the Council even started. This would have disastrous effects for the entire Council, and the intervening years of the post-conciliar Church.
We’re happy to welcome back Fr. Jonathan Loop, the Principal of Immaculate Conception Academy in Post Falls, ID, to discuss the preparations that were carried out for the Second Vatican Council. We’ll take a quick look at the First Vatican Council, and what effect that had on this second council, as well as why Pope John XXIII wanted to convoke this council. Then we’ll take a look at the preparations themselves. As you’ll see, they were extensive, and beyond some troubling details, they were in fact, very traditional, and caused Archbishop Lefebvre to be optimistic about the good the council could achieve!
We’re happy to welcome back Fr. Dominique Bourmaud, the Pastor of St. Vincent’s in Kansas City, and the author of One Hundred Years of Modernism, to discuss the New Theology that gripped the Church in the mid-1900’s. We’ll look at this theology’s champion, Henri De Lubac, and the outsized influence he played in moving the hierarchy to accept radical new teachings on the even of the Second Vatican Council. If you’re listening on the podcast, this episode is one best viewed on YouTube, as the corresponding text will be very helpful in your understanding.
- Notes from Episode 24: New Mass, Proclaiming a New Theology
- Notes from Episode 23: An Ecumenical Rite
- Notes from Episode 22: Post-Conciliar Reforms
- Notes from Episode 19-21: The Course of the Council
- Notes from Episode 18: The Secret Work that would Take Over the Council
- Notes from Episode 17: How Vatican II Started Out – Pretty Great!
- Notes from Episode 16: The New Theology & “Seeking the Mystery of Christ”
- Notes from Episode 15: Change is Always Good – Existentialism
- Notes from Episode 14: Why Freedom & Equality Aren’t Catholic
- Notes from Episode 13: Modernist Popes in Their Own Words
- Notes from Episodes 11-12: Modernism
- Notes from Episode 10: Modernist Infiltration – The Beginnings
- No Notes from Episode 9
- Notes from Episodes 7 & 8: Americanism
- Notes from Episode 6: Liberal Catholics Don’t Exist
- Notes from Episode 5: What is Liberalism?
- Notes from Episode 4: Liberalism’s Errors
- Notes from Episode 3: Origins – Descartes and Kant
- Notes from Episode 2: Origins – Nominalism and Luther
- Notes from Episode 1: Is There a Crisis?